tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3320087.post3882102877180801296..comments2024-03-22T15:15:09.943-04:00Comments on Lionel Deimel’s Web Log: Questions for the Anglican DioceseLionel Deimelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08363018512775944659noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3320087.post-79176337440927924312009-11-07T11:03:26.938-05:002009-11-07T11:03:26.938-05:00More information on the Staying Faithful Fund was ...More information on the Staying Faithful Fund was revealed last night at the Anglican Diocese of Pittsburgh’s annual convention. According to the <a href="http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09311/1011614-455.stm" rel="nofollow"><i>Pittsburgh Post-Gazette</i></a>, “For every $2 given through the end of 2010 an anonymous donor will give $1, up to a match of $200,000 for donations of $400,000.”<br /><br />And who is that fat cat anonymous donor?Lionel Deimelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08363018512775944659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3320087.post-14032976841391136182009-11-04T13:45:55.988-05:002009-11-04T13:45:55.988-05:00At least some answers to my questions can be found...At least some answers to my questions can be found in a letter dated 10/30/2009 from Archbishop Duncan “To the Elected Leadership of the Diocese.” The letter is neither on the pitanglican.org nor the pittsburghanglican.org Web sites, but David Virtue posted it today. You can read it <a href="http://www.virtueonline.org/portal/modules/news/article.php?storyid=11505" rel="nofollow">here</a>.Lionel Deimelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08363018512775944659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3320087.post-11442617667549585352009-11-04T12:22:15.796-05:002009-11-04T12:22:15.796-05:00In response to Alan Stewart, please note that the ...In response to Alan Stewart, please note that the "ACNA diocese of Pittsburgh" is only a defendant because it is aligned with Bp. Duncan, who was a defendant in the original Calvary Episcopal Church lawsuit brought to prevent Robert Duncan from doing what he eventually did. <br /><br />Taking an appeal is the equivalent of beginning a new judicial action. The fact that Bp. Duncan is a defendant doesn't change that. If he were serious about avoiding going to court, then he should accept the judgment of the court ans stop asking the court to do something different.<br /><br />Is there anyone at this point that thinks that Bp. Duncan's offshoot will ever be "found to be the legitimate diocese"? Seriously.<br /><br />First he claimed legitimacy by laying claim to the word "Episcopal" both before and after he left The Episcopal Church. Since that Wantlandesque ploy wasn't bought by the courts he seems finally to have abandoned it. <br /><br />Now he (as David points out) is claiming legitimacy by pretending to be part of The Anglican Communion. <br /><br />When will the bible-citers get to take to heart the false-witness proscriptions of Exodus 20:16 & 23:1, Deuteronomy 5:20 & 19:16-21, Proverbs 6:16-19, 12:17, 14:5, 14:25, 19:5, 19:28, 21:28, 24:28 & 25:18, Matthew 15:18-20 & 19:16-19, Mark 10:17-19, Luke 18:18-20, and Romans 13:9?<br /><br />That's a lot more weight than the half-dozen clobber verses Bp. Duncan seems to ground his "theology" on.Paul (A.)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07543357437252555101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3320087.post-91870211888902394032009-11-04T11:33:57.958-05:002009-11-04T11:33:57.958-05:00Notice that on the page of the new Anglican dioces...Notice that on the page of the new Anglican diocese website concerning the Anglican Church of North America there is a blatant lie;<br /><i>Members of the worldwide Anglican Communion</i><br /><br />No matter how you twist the facts, there is not one bishop or diocese in ACNA to whom the Archbishop of Canterbury has extended communion. And there is no one from ACNA who represents it as a constituent member on the Anglican Consultative Council.<br /><br />These are the only two definitions of membership in the worldwide Anglican Communion of which I am aware.Brother Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06333089314994730330noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3320087.post-5155206871827439782009-11-03T15:36:33.300-05:002009-11-03T15:36:33.300-05:001. The ACNA diocese of Pittsburgh is the defendant...1. The ACNA diocese of Pittsburgh is the defendant in this case. It is being sued, not suing.<br /><br />If the TEC diocese had to sue to get possession of ACNA parish churches, as it would since the ACNA folks are in possession of them, would you urge them to refrain from suing for the same reasons you have applied to +Duncan?<br /><br />2. While I would agree that both sides have ignored cost-benefit analysis elsewhere across the land in parish litigation, the value of the property of a whole diocese, plus the parish church buildings of two-thirds of it, is worth litigating under any cost=benefit analysis. (Parish churches will be held in trust for whichever is found to be the legitimate diocese.)Alan Stewarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00413914847275660133noreply@blogger.com